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		<title>A change of strategy</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am finding that I am reading much faster than I am able to find the time to write here.  This makes my original plan for this blog&#8211;to begin with a thorough, linear exegesis of various philosophical notes&#8211;very unpractical.  Updates have been too slow to be any sign of progress.
So I think I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I am finding that I am reading much faster than I am able to find the time to write here.  This makes my original plan for this blog&#8211;to begin with a thorough, linear exegesis of various philosophical notes&#8211;very unpractical.  Updates have been too slow to be any sign of progress.</p>
<p>So I think I will table that method for now.</p>
<p>A more realistic and interesting (for me) way to use this space is to actively work on some ideas that past readings have already inspired.  I will attempt to apply the same amount of rigor to these problems, but my coverage of any particular work will be more sporadic, and I expect that for some time topics will appear disjointed.  I may resort to using this space for notes; if I do so, I will make an effort to elaborate on them later, or incorporate them into some larger statement.</p>
<p>I think that this sort of work will likely hold my interest better, and maybe ultimately be of more use.</p>
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		<title>Whoops</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 02:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wrote too soon about Habermas and his use of Popper&#8217;s &#8220;third world&#8221;:
In what follows I shall no longer employ the Popperian terminology.  My purpose in reviewing Jarvie&#8217;s action-theoretic translation of Popper&#8217;s three-world theory was only to prepare the way for the thesis that with the choice of a specific sociological concept of action [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I wrote too soon about Habermas and his use of Popper&#8217;s &#8220;third world&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>In what follows I shall no longer employ the Popperian terminology.  My purpose in reviewing Jarvie&#8217;s action-theoretic translation of Popper&#8217;s three-world theory was only to prepare the way for the thesis that with the choice of a specific sociological concept of action we generally make specific &#8220;ontological&#8221; assumptions.  (TOCA, 84-85)</p></blockquote>
<p>So it is not clear at this point in the text what Habermas&#8217;s actual metaphysical commitments are.  Later in this chapter, he provides a taxonomy of actions and is explicit about the ontological assumptions of each, and I would assume that Habermas is committed, at the very least, to the ontological assumptions of <i>communicative action</i> theories.</p>
<p>My guess is that the answer to the question of what it means for an expression to embody knowledge (DFN-EXP-EMBODY-KNOWLEDGE-?) lies within this more elaborate taxonomy.</p>
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		<title>Popper&#8217;s third world</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my last post, I raised the following question in the context of TOCA:
(DFN-EXP-EMBODY-KNOWLEDGE-?) What does it mean for an expression to embody knowledge?
I didn&#8217;t find a lot to help me in the opening chapter I&#8217;ve been writing about here for some time.  But thankfully, I&#8217;ve been reading faster than I&#8217;ve been blogging, and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>In my last post, I raised the following question in the context of TOCA:</p>
<p>(DFN-EXP-EMBODY-KNOWLEDGE-?) What does it mean for an expression to <strong>embody</strong> knowledge?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t find a lot to help me in the opening chapter I&#8217;ve been writing about here for some time.  But thankfully, I&#8217;ve been reading faster than I&#8217;ve been blogging, and recently hit a section that should help me out.</p>
<p>It turns out, to my surprise, that this notion of embodiment is largely <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Popper">Popperian</a>.  In the third section of TOCA, Habermas introduces the Popperian notion of a &#8220;third world&#8221; of objective semantic contents.</p>
<blockquote><p>We may first distinguish the following three worlds or universes: first the world of physical objects or physical states; secondly, the world of states of consciousness, or of mental states, or perhaps of behavioral dispositions to act; and thirdly, the world of objective contents of thought, especially the scientific and poetic thoughts and of works of art.  (Popper, &#8220;Epistemology Without a Knowing Subject,&#8221; in TOCA, 76)</p></blockquote>
<p>According to Habermas, Popper sees these three worlds as ontologically distinct.  Apparently, the objective existence of the third world is intended to provide a way for objective science to proceed without dependency on a subject&#8211;which would, I suppose in Popper&#8217;s opinion, pollute the project.  To this end, it is necessary for there to be both &#8220;embodied&#8221; and &#8220;unembodied&#8221; semantic contents:</p>
<blockquote><p>Popper distinguishes between explicit semantic contents that are already <em>embodied</em> in phonemes and written signs &#8230; and those implicit semantic contents that are not yet &#8220;discovered,&#8221; not yet objectivated in carrier objects of the first world, but are simply inherent in already embodied meanings.<br />
    These &#8220;unembodied world 3 objects&#8221; are an important indicator of the independence of the world of the objective mind.  Symbolic formations are, it is true, generated by the productive human mind; but though they are themselves products, they confront the subjective mind with the objectivity of a problematic, uncomprehended complex of meaning that can be opened up only through intellectual labor.</p></blockquote>
<p>Habermas goes on to correct Popper&#8217;s story and especially its application to sociology.  But I suspect that he finds the metaphysical commitments here OK.  Unfortunately, those commitments spook the hell out of me.  To put my cards on the table: I&#8217;m currently a physicalist as far as the mind/body debate goes, for reasons that I think are best elucidated in Papineau&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Thinking-about-Consciousness-David-Papineau/dp/0199271151/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1209224358&amp;sr=8-1">Thinking about Consciousness</a>, so I already disagree with the the distinction between Popper&#8217;s first and second worlds.  And the third world?  Well, I think it can be reduced back down to causal relations as well.</p>
<p>None of this is to say that I think Habermas&#8217; project is fundamentally misguided.  But I do think it would be easier to work with it if I could work out some adjustment to a more plausible metaphysical story.</p>
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		<title>Knowledge embodied in expressions?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Habermas&#8217; theory of rationality is broad in scope and he appears to develop it throughout TOCA, but be begins with a preliminary account grounded in some conceptual analysis.  
What does it mean to say that persons behave &#8220;rationally&#8221; in a certain situation or that their expressions count as &#8220;rational&#8221;?  Knowledge can be criticized [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Habermas&#8217; theory of rationality is broad in scope and he appears to develop it throughout TOCA, but be begins with a preliminary account grounded in some conceptual analysis.  </p>
<blockquote><p>What does it mean to say that persons behave &#8220;rationally&#8221; in a certain situation or that their expressions count as &#8220;rational&#8221;?  Knowledge can be criticized as unreliable.  The close relation between knowledge and rationality suggests that the rationality of an expression depends on the reliability of the knowledge embodied in it. (TOCA, 8 )</p></blockquote>
<p>This is Habermas&#8217; first stab: to tie the definition of rationality to the idea of knowledge &#8220;embodied&#8221; in an expression.</p>
<blockquote><p>Consider two paradigmatic cases: an assertion with which <em>A</em> in a communicative attitude expresses a belief and a goal-directed intervention in the world with which <em>B</em> pursues a specific end.  <strong>Both embody fallible knowledge</strong>; both are attempts that can go wrong. (TOCA, 8, emphasis mine)</p></blockquote>
<p>I am initially skeptical of the free use of &#8220;embody&#8221;&#8211;it appears to be doing a lot of work for Habermas, and he refrains from defining it explicitly, and instead builds it by example only.  My fear is that such an explanatory tool built out of ad hoc examples without an overarching principle will be this theory&#8217;s weakest link.  But despite my reservations, let&#8217;s open up the term to the possibility of definition within our system.</p>
<p>(DFN-EXP-EMBODY-KNOWLEDGE-?) What does it mean for an expression to <strong>embody</strong> knowledge?</p>
<p>Moving on:</p>
<blockquote><p>  In both cases, the critic refers to the claims that the subjects necessarily attach to their expressions insofar as the latter are intended as assertions or goal-directed actions.  This necessity is of a conceptual nature.  For <em>A</em> does not make an assertion unless he makes a truth claim for the asserted proposition <em>p</em> and therewith indicates his conviction that his statement can, if necessary, be defended.  And <em>B</em> does not perform a goal-directed action, that is, he does not want to accomplish an end by it unless he regards the action planned as promising and therewith indicates his conviction that, in the given circumstances, his choice of means can if necessary be explained.&#8221; (TOCA, 9)</p></blockquote>
<p>There are a number of presuppositions in the passage that I would rather not take for granted, but there is one in particular which we have already explored reasons for doubting.  It appears, at least on a first reading, that Habermas believes that all goal-directed actions are tied to linguistic claims and explanations.  But we have already discussed <a href="http://interrationale.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/know-how/">here</a> and <a href="http://interrationale.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/know-how-and-language/">here</a> that the connection between know-how and language is a weak one.  It might be possible, then, for there to be goal-directed action that is not tied to language at all.</p>
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		<title>Rationality, for Habermas</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we seek the grammatical subjects that go with the predicate expression &#8220;rational,&#8221; two candidates come to the fore: persons, who have knowledge, can be more or less rational, as can symbolic expressions&#8211;linguistic and nonlinguistic, communication or non-communicative actions&#8211;that embody knowledge.  We can call men and women, children and adults, ministers and bus conductors [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><blockquote>If we seek the grammatical subjects that go with the predicate expression &#8220;rational,&#8221; two candidates come to the fore: persons, who have knowledge, can be more or less rational, as can symbolic expressions&#8211;linguistic and nonlinguistic, communication or non-communicative actions&#8211;that embody knowledge.  We can call men and women, children and adults, ministers and bus conductors &#8220;rational,&#8221; but not animals or lilac bushes, mountains, streets, or chairs.  We can call apologies, delays, surgical interventions, declarations of war, repairs, construction plans or conference decisions &#8220;irrational,&#8221; but not a storm, and accident, a lottery win, or an illness.  (TOCA, 8 )</p></blockquote>
<p>A few observations on this passage:</p>
<p>First, Habermas appears to be adopted at least preliminarily the methodology of linguistic analysis that we would expect to find in analytic philosophy.  I&#8217;m personally skeptical about the power of this methodology, but reading ahead I have been impressed with Habermas&#8217; use of it.  More on this later, for now I would just like to point it out.</p>
<p>Second, what a headache keeping all these definitions is going to be!  We already have one definition of the predicate &#8220;rational,&#8221; which is Lukacs&#8217; predicate that he uses, a predicate whose &#8220;grammatical subject&#8221; is limited to <em>systems</em>.  Now, at the very least, we have a new predicate that applies only to persons for which we use the same word.  Let&#8217;s introduce this in a new definition, which we will have to leave undetermined for the moment.</p>
<p>(DFN-RATIONAL-PERSON-?)  For given person, it is possible that that person is a <strong>rational person</strong>.  What does that mean?</p>
<p>In addition, Habermas claims that there is another use of &#8220;rational&#8221; which applies to &#8220;symbolic expressions.&#8221;  I think that my parsing here takes &#8220;linguistic and nonlinguistic, communication or non-communicative actions&#8221; to be in apposition to &#8220;symbolic expression,&#8221; hence defining it.  And the former phrase pretty clearly logically reduces to &#8220;actions.&#8221;  So &#8220;symbolic expressions&#8221; is just a fancy way of saying &#8220;actions.&#8221;  Let&#8217;s propose the following (blank) definition:</p>
<p>(DFN-RATIONAL-ACTION-?)  For given action, it is possible that that person is a <strong>rational action</strong>.  What does that mean?</p>
<p>I think that in the future, I will disambiguate when necessary between these three predicates by subscripting them to note the category of their subjects.  So, &#8220;<strong>rational<sub>s</sub></strong>&#8220;, &#8220;<strong>rational<sub>p</sub></strong>&#8220;, and &#8220;<strong>rational<sub>a</sub></strong>&#8220;, refer to the predicates relating to systems, persons, and actions, respectively.</p>
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		<title>Know-how and language</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 05:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#8217;s look in more depth at the relationship between knowledge and language.  Although we have accepted (maybe only tentatively) that beliefs can be expressed as linguistic statements (see (TOCA-8-A)), we have found this compelling largely because the following appear to hold
(T&#38;W-1) When one has a belief, one is related in a certain way (the relation [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Let&#8217;s look in more depth at the relationship between knowledge and language.  Although we have accepted (maybe only tentatively) that beliefs can be expressed as linguistic statements (see (TOCA-8-A)), we have found this compelling largely because the following appear to hold</p>
<p>(T&amp;W-1) When one has a belief, one is related in a certain way (the relation of believing) to a proposition.<br />
(T&amp;W-3) Propositions have structure that parallels the logical structure of the sentences.</p>
<p>Presumably, what we mean when we say that beliefs can be expressed as linguistic statements is that for a belief B, and a proposition related to that belief P<sub>B</sub>, B can be expressed by the linguistic statement S<sub>B</sub> only when S<sub>B</sub> reflects the logical structure of P<sub>B</sub> (and when the words of S<sub>B</sub> reflect the proper concepts which constitute P<sub>B</sub>).</p>
<p>This all makes sense when we are talking about knowledge-that.  But we have already pointed out that know-how does not seem to have the same connection with language as knowledge-that.  In particular, there don&#8217;t appear to be sentences that correspond with our &#8220;belief-hows.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why might this be? If the above reasoning about knowledge-that is correct, then I think the best explanation would be this: knowledge-how is not related to propositions in the same way as knowledge-that.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#8217;s jump back to Habermas:
In linguistic utterances knowledge is expressed explicitly; in goal-directed actions an ability, an implicit knowledge is expressed; this know-how can in principle also be transformed into know-that. (TOCA, 8 )
Here Habermas is doing his best to relate all knowledge to linguistic claims.  I think he&#8217;s doing this because later he [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Let&#8217;s jump back to Habermas:</p>
<blockquote><p>In linguistic utterances knowledge is expressed explicitly; in goal-directed actions an ability, an implicit knowledge is expressed; this know-how can in principle also be transformed into know-that. (TOCA, 8 )</p></blockquote>
<p>Here Habermas is doing his best to relate all knowledge to linguistic claims.  I think he&#8217;s doing this because later he will try to make the rationality of such knowledge depend on the defensibility of those linguistic claims in discourse.</p>
<p>I disagree with Habermas here, however.</p>
<p>The distinction Habermas between knowledge-that and knowledge-how is a distinction drawn by contemporary psychology as well, under the names <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declarative_knowledge">declarative (or descriptive) knowledge</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procedural_knowledge">procedural knowledge</a>.  A primary difference between these kinds of knowledge is that people&#8217;s procedural knowledge is stored in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procedural_memory">procedural memory</a>, which is a functionally and biologically distinct kind of memory. This is the kind of memory that lets you remember how to ride a bicycle, or tie your shoes, as opposed to remember what you ate for lunch yesterday or the capital of Vermont.</p>
<p>Much psychological and neurological work has been done on both kinds of memory, and one very robust result to come out of that work is this: while declarative memories can be easily brought to consciousness and articulated, it is very difficult if not impossible to do so for procedural memory.  Typically, the question which proves this point to an introductory psychology student is: can you describe, in words, how to ride a bicycle?</p>
<p>The link between know-how (procedural knowledge) and linguistic utterances, then, is relatively weak.</p>
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		<title>Revisiting Debord 1:2 on contemplation</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Earlier, I wrestled with this hermeneutic question:
(TSOTS-1:2-B-?) “Reality considered partially unfolds, in its own general unity, as a pseudo-world apart, an object of mere contemplation.” What does this mean?
I think that with the new concepts and theory from Lukacs, we can make a first pass at a restating of this claim.
Recall that according to (CSTANCE-RAT-HET), [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Earlier, I wrestled with this hermeneutic question:</p>
<p>(TSOTS-1:2-B-?) “Reality considered partially unfolds, in its own general unity, as a pseudo-world apart, an object of mere contemplation.” What does this mean?</p>
<p>I think that with the new concepts and theory from Lukacs, we can make a first pass at a restating of this claim.</p>
<p>Recall that according to (CSTANCE-RAT-HET), one must take the contemplative stance towards a fully rational, heterological system.  Assuming that Debord is drawing in part of Lukacs&#8217; theory, it would be consistent with the text to infer that Debord is talking about bourgeois conditions of life here.  With the rationality of systemic thought being a given under capitalism (according to the Marxist tradition), and the hetorological tendencies of bourgeois systematization, reality is both (a) &#8220;considered partially&#8221; (because it excludes the phenomena that relate to the subject&#8217;s powers of intervention on the contents of the system, and (b) &#8220;an object of mere contemplation.&#8221;</p>
<p>What about the bit about &#8220;in its own general unity&#8221;?</p>
<p>I want to refer back to the Lukacs passage quoted <a href="http://interrationale.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/kinds-of-systems-part-2/">here</a>.  For Lukacs, &#8220;modern rationalism&#8221; is unique in that attempts to create a system that is <i>both</i> fully rational <i>and </i>total.  In the case where this system is also heterological, this is a doomed mission.  But doomed or not, there is a &#8220;general unity&#8221; to the rational system that is total with the possible exception of its own subject.  It is this general unity that makes the contemplative stance so pervasive and pernicious.</p>
<p>With that, I think I&#8217;ll hold onto this elaborated version of the Debord passage:</p>
<p>(TSOTS-1:2-B-v1.0) [Under the rationalism that comes with capitalism,] reality considered [heterologically and hence] partially unfolds, in its own general unity [characterized by a system that is total except for its subject], as a pseudo-world apart, an object [towards which one must take the contemplative stance].<br />
That makes for some pretty slow progress on Debord.  But I think the concepts gleaned from Lukacs will come up again&#8211;I know Habermas uses them, for example.  Hopefully tackling Debord will get easier as I read through TSOTS.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have already noted that Lukacs writes,
As labour is progressively rationalised and mechanised his lack of will is reinforced by the way in which his activity becomes less and less active and more and more contemplative. The contemplative stance [is] adopted towards a &#8230; a perfectly closed system (HCC)
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>We have already noted that Lukacs writes,</p>
<blockquote><p>As labour is progressively rationalised and mechanised his lack of will is reinforced by the way in which his activity becomes less and less active and more and more contemplative. The contemplative stance [is] adopted towards a &#8230; a perfectly closed system (<a href="http://www.marxists.org/archive/lukacs/works/history/hcc05.htm">HCC</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>Now we are in a position to unpack this claim.  Lukacs believed that capitalism causes people to seek to understand the world more and more rationally, i.e. through an increasingly rational system.  However, because increasing rationality implies increased closure (c.f. (RATIONAL-&gt;CLOSED)), the result is a (perhaps real, perhaps perceived) inability to act freely upon the contents of the system.</p>
<p>That seems to be roughly Lukacs&#8217; argument.  There are complications in the logic, however.  Clearly, if the acting subject is exogenous to the system, and the system is closed, then the contents of the system are impervious to the subject&#8217;s actions.  But what if the subject is endogenous to the system?  In that case, what is important, it seems, is not the closure but the rationality of the system, because in this case the subject&#8217;s actions must be deducible from the system&#8217;s axioms, and hence not independently caused by the subject.</p>
<p>I may well be wrong about this, but after my first reading of HCC, I gather that Lukacs accepts all this and casts the tension here in terms of the following class difference: the bourgeoisie characteristically rationalize the world, but leave their own subjectivity out of it, and hence understand the world as a <i>partial</i> system closed to them.  The proletariat, however, exist in the same rationalized world but consider the world through a total system that permits them action within it, but only as a class and only in a way prescribed by the rationality the system (in this case, the historical dialectic), or else not at all.</p>
<p>There seems to be a useful conceptual distinction here for which, as far as I know, there are no preexisting terms.  So I will make some up:</p>
<p>(DFN-AUTOLOGICAL-SYSTEM-v.1.0) An <b>autological</b> system is a system whose contents includes its subject.<br />
(DFN-HETEROLOGICAL-SYSTEM-v.1.0) A <b>heterological</b> system is a system whose contents do not include its subject.</p>
<p>What do I mean when I talk about a system&#8217;s subject?  Recall that a system is a set of beliefs and valuations.  For now, let&#8217;s say that a system&#8217;s subject is the person who has those beliefs and valuations.  I think there&#8217;s a lot of ambiguity in these definitions as given, but I would like to move on for now and get back to them later.</p>
<p>Given these preliminary definitions, I think we can argue the following:</p>
<p>(CSTANCE-RAT-HET) One must take the contemplative stance towards systems that are both fully rational and heterological.</p>
<p>Why? Because:</p>
<ol>
<li>Suppose a system S is both fully rational and heterological.</li>
<li>S is closed. (by (RATIONAL-&gt;CLOSED))</li>
<li>The contents of S do not depend on any variables exogenous to S (by 2 and (DFN-CLOSED-SYSTEM-v.1.0))</li>
<li>The subject of S is not included in the contents of S (by  (DFN-HETEROLOGICAL-SYSTEM-v.1.0))</li>
<li>The subject of S is exogenous to S (by an unformalized definition of &#8220;exogenous&#8221;)</li>
<li>The contents of S does not depend on the the subject of S.</li>
<li>The subject of S must take the contemplative stance towards S if the contents of S do not depend on the subject of S.</li>
</ol>
<p>I realize that I haven&#8217;t yet provided a definition of the contemplative stance here.   I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s possible to do so given my current understanding of the term; I&#8217;ll try to use it in a way that&#8217;s consistent and provide a definition, perhaps revisiting this argument, later.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Consider two kinds of systems that we have identified:
(DFN-RATIONAL-SYSTEM-v.1.0) A system is a rational system to the extent that its contents are deducible from its axioms.
(DFN-CLOSED-SYSTEM-v.1.0) A closed system is a system whose content does not depend on any variables exogenous to it.
It is clear from Lukacs&#8217; writing that he considers these two concepts to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Consider two kinds of systems that we have identified:</p>
<p>(DFN-RATIONAL-SYSTEM-v.1.0) A system is a <b>rational system</b> to the extent that its contents are deducible from its axioms.</p>
<p>(DFN-CLOSED-SYSTEM-v.1.0) A <b>closed system</b> is a system whose content does not depend on any variables exogenous to it.</p>
<p>It is clear from Lukacs&#8217; writing that he considers these two concepts to be connected in a certain way: he believes that a fully rational system must be closed.</p>
<p>Here is an argument for why he must be right:</p>
<ol>
<li>Suppose a system, S is <i>fully rational</i>.</li>
<li>S is entirely deducible from its axioms (by (DFN-RATIONAL-SYSTEM-v.1.0)).</li>
<li>That means that S&#8217;s contents do not depend on anything except that which is contained in its axioms.</li>
<li>Anything contained in the axioms of S is endogenous (not exogenous) to S.</li>
<li>Hence, S does not depend on any variables exogenous to it (by 3 and 4)</li>
<li>S is <i>closed</i>. (by (DFN-CLOSED-SYSTEM-v.1.0))</li>
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<p>One day I&#8217;d like to make this argument more formal, but for now I think it will suffice to let me make the following statement with confidence:</p>
<p>(RATIONAL-&gt;CLOSED) If a system is fully rational, then it is closed.</p>
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